This recipe was developed in our family after my husband and I turned mostly vegan due to his health. It's based on an old family recipe, modified. Mix the apples with the sweetener, and put the spices on. I'm not sure how much cinnamon or nutmeg because I just shake those on. All I can say is I use a lot of cinnamon. Let that sit aside while you make the crust Put 2 C of flour into a bowl. Mix in the salt and then with a fork, mix the oil into the flour mixture. Pastry cutters do not work well with liquid fats. When the mixture is pebbley put in the water 2 tablespoons at a time. Divide the mixture and roll out between waxpaper. Fill with apples and put the top crust on. For decoration use small cookie cutters on the top crust. Bake for 8-10 minutes on 350 degrees, then turn down to 250 for about an hour.